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posted by [personal profile] hradzka at 01:17pm on 12/11/2009 under
Mike Sterling has an interesting post that touches on on for-pay RPF from the 1970s. He points out that teen magazines included fictional stories about celebrities, mysteries and adventures and romances and -- yes, *exactly,* it was totally RPF. I *have* to poach Sterling's selected quote, a bit from a serialized story in which the protagonist, Cindi goes on adventures with, um, Donny Osmond.

In spite of the total darkness, Donny seemed to know in which direction to swim. Cindi held onto Donny from behind, with one hand under his arm and the other across his bare shoulders. As he propelled them forward through the murky depths, Cindi could feel the movement of Donny's muscles working under his skin, and his soft, thick hair brushing her face. With her left leg alongside his right, Cindi was able to pick up and imitate the rhythm of Donny's kicking, so that the two of them, intertwined and struggling forward, became as one.


...yeah.

It's as amazing to me as it is to you -- maybe more so, because I vividly remember the flamewars when RPF came into being, and to be honest the stuff still squicks me today -- but apparently there was a time when RPF was not only not minded, but was more or less *commissioned,* for *pay,* and *sold for profit,* by celebrity magazines. I honestly wonder if such a thing might not come round again. Admittedly, Mary Sue are probably an easier sell than slash, and this was in the day where you just had "becoming as one while swimming in total darkness" as masturbatory fodder in lieu of actual porn, so some aspects would be a tough sell. But if I were a romance or mystery publisher, particularly one with a corporate relationship with some music arm, I would seriously think about producing a line of cheap stories with celebrity tie-ins. Because you can plonk a big pile of seventies teen mags down and say, "We used to do it!" (Hey, publishers, wanna print money? Commission somebody to write a book about a murder mystery at Fueled by Ramen, with Patrick Stump solving the crime. You want a TWILIGHT knock-off? Produce books about things that TWILIGHT's audience already likes. Or -- dig this: a murder/romance set DURING THE FILMING OF THE TWILIGHT MOVIES, with the stars solving crimes and acting. You want more TWILIGHT books to sell? You got it.)

I think that I had this idea means that I'm going to hell.
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posted by [personal profile] coneyislandbaby at 06:24pm on 17/11/2009
Actually, this kind of stuff even exists today. I have a book (I picked it up in a sale) which has several young stars having adventures with young girls with maybe a kiss. And I have a couple of Disney books featuring Annette Funicello as a fictional character (not related to the Mouseketeers, she's just an actress in Hollywood).

It really does make me wonder why there was quite the fuss that there was when RPF came about.
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posted by [personal profile] kinetikatrue at 08:14am on 19/11/2009
It totally still happens. For a completely massive example, there's the more than a decade's worth of books centered around fictionalized versions of Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen (they started in the mid-90s and were still being published at least as recently as 2007).

And then for an OMG WTF MARY SUE ALERT ONE: an actualfax published novel about a romance between Prince William and a completely made up girl. Which I stumbled upon while searching amazon for something completely different.
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posted by [personal profile] ingridmatthews at 01:09pm on 19/11/2009
Earlier even than the '70's. There were lots of Beatles RPF in official fan mags from the early '60's. I distinctly remember one where Cynthia Lennon hit John with a rolled up paper (like a naughty dog perhaps? Ha.)

Now I'm wondering if those rags from the '40's (movie star pic mags) didn't also contain some.
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posted by [personal profile] aedifica at 03:01pm on 19/11/2009
Here from metafandom.

I remember reading a book my grandparents had (maybe it was my mom's or my aunt's when they were young) about some real-life celebrities being camp counselors and having adventures--I think it was the Lennon Sisters. Totally RPF. (And by the way, when I saw the words "for-pay RPF" my first thought was fic about real people having sex for money!)
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posted by [personal profile] robynbender at 06:35am on 20/11/2009
Yes, indeed, the Lennon sisters -- which takes it back to 1960! I read one at a cousin's house in the early 1960's: it was a full-length YA book in a similar binding as the Trixie Belden series. The sisters were solving a mystery.

I see the same author, Doris Schroeder, published RPF about Patty Duke, about Annette, and, wow, RPF about LASSIE: http://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Schroeder%2C%20Doris
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posted by [personal profile] elf at 03:25pm on 19/11/2009
RPF has always been on much stronger legal ground than most fanfic. Even the heavy smut variants are legal, and we can thank Rev Falwell for dragging his case all the way to the SCOTUS to establish that.

Most fanfic runs into copyright and trademark laws. (I'm in the camp that believes it's totally legal, but I understand that it *hits* those laws, even if I don't think it runs afoul of them.) RPF runs into slander laws... which require believability, and possibly intent as well, to be relevant.

If you make it clear that "this is fiction; I'm not saying these people have ever/would ever do anything like this," it's outside of the scope of slander. (In the US, anyway; other countries might have different interps.)
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posted by [personal profile] klangley56 at 11:48pm on 21/11/2009
As a big Bobby Sherman fan in my teenybopper days I read the same type of stories in the same teen magazines, about him and some nice young teenage girl having adventures.

But that was authorized. And harmless.

RPS (and, presumably, RPH)? Not so much of either.

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