hradzka: (catwoman and holly)
I can't believe how I completely didn't mention XENA fanfic in my post about AUs, because any fanfic discussion of AUs should absolutely have uber fic front and center, in the same way TOS's "Mirror, Mirror" should absolutely be mentioned in any discussion of "evil duplicates" TV episodes. For those who don't remember or were, um, ten, uber is fanfic building on the premise that Xena (Warrior Princess) and Gabrielle (bard) are soulmates, and are fated to wind up together in any number of lifetimes (a gimmick seen in several episodes of the show). So you get Xena and Gabrielle in the Old West by Della Street or Bat Morda, Xena and Gabrielle in present-day Miami by Missy Good, all that manner of thing. Read more... )
hradzka: (cameron's head)
In LJ comments, [personal profile] thefourthvine and I had a really interesting exchange about fannish AUs. By which I mean, I asked questions and she did all the heavy lifting. It's too good to leave buried in comments, so here is the lightly edited gist.

I found this conversation really interesting and insightful, because it cued me in on something I hadn't realized about the stuff I tend to gravitate towards, and one explanation why some fandoms become huge and some don't. Discussion welcomed.

ME. I don't like AUs for a lot of reasons, but I think the chief one has to do with one of the reasons I don't like porn fic. About ten years ago, I was of the theory that fans wrote porn when the actual material didn't sufficiently capture their interest -- ie, if you really liked THE X-FILES, you wouldn't be writing dumb porn about Scully doing Mulder, you'd be writing casefic in an attempt to emulate the actual show. I don't know if that was true then, but it certainly isn't true now; for a lot of people, porn is the entire point of fandom. But AUs often give me that feeling: if you like these characters so much, why are you putting them in weird scenarios where they're so far removed from what made you fond of them in the first place?

TFV. I'm not surprised to hear that you don't like AUs, but I think there's a selection bias at work there. If you look at your favorite fandoms, most of them are the definition of "bad AU fandoms." (I mean, who is Batman if he's not, you know, Batman? Either a lunatic or a sane guy, and either way, he's no longer very interesting.) The elements that make a fandom great for AUs are elements that will actively drive you away.

You seem, for one thing, to be drawn to - I don't know how to put it. Interlocking canons? Canons where the people are who they are because of the (interesting) world they're in. That is exactly what makes a fandom bad for AUs.


Read more... )

ETA: my thoughts on the XENA connection, here.
hradzka: (tony stark)
I found this story kind of depressing: folks on AVATAR forums talking about how much they wish they could wake up on Pandora. Some of them talk about trying to dream about it, or have even more drastic thoughts. The site in question is making fun of the people, of course, but I can't laugh about it much; it's a curious aspect of modern society that so many people project upon contemporary fantasy worlds the kind of world-to-come aspirations and love and hope that people of previous centuries ascribed solely to heaven. (Or, in the case of my own folks, the World-to-Come, which I think is the nerdiest heaven ever: the Jewish World-to-Come is pretty much *exactly* like this world, except 1) all of the dead are resurrected and 2) everybody agrees that the Jews are right. YES, OUR IDEA OF HEAVEN IS A PLACE WHERE WE GET TO WIN A FRIGGING ARGUMENT.) I suspect that this is because while heaven is a place of ultimate closeness to God and all that sort of thing, contemporary fantasy worlds are simply Places Where Cool Shit Happens, which probably has more appeal for the viewer who is not particularly interested in communion with the Deity.

Wishing you could inhabit a fantasy world is a fannish staple, but I'm uncomfortable and even alarmed by the cited juxtaposition of the love of AVATAR's Pandora with vehement hatred of one's own society -- misery is hard enough to live with, but fetishized, institutionalized cultural self-hatred of this sort makes me profoundly uncomfortable. (Guys? Do you realize they don't have the frigging INTERNET on Pandora? Well, okay, they do have an equivalent, but getting to plug into it is evidently a Big Deal For Special People and you don't get to just do it any time you feel like it for hours at a time. As Popular Mechanics pointed out in their review, James Cameron would be bored out of his goddamn skull on Pandora, fer Chrissakes. It's like -- okay, this is a digression, but recently NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC ran an article on the Hadza, who are hunter-gatherers in Tanzania. The NG reporter lived with the Hadza for a couple of weeks, even going on a baboon hunt. Y'know who I felt for, reading the article? One of the Hadza, a guy named Maduru. He's a misfit in a group of maybe thirty people. When they pass out the snakebite remedy, he doesn't get any, which upsets Maduru greatly, as it goddamn well should, because his community is saying that it *literally* doesn't care whether he lives or dies. Anybody who has *ever* been on the shit end of the list knows exactly how Maduru feels. I spent a good chunk of my childhood being Maduru. I know people who are Maduru to this day. Except they live in a fucking awesome society that gives them the Internet and discussion boards and World of Warcraft, so even if they wake up every day being Maduru they get a chance to escape into a place where they're not Maduru any more. Except the *real* Maduru, of course. He lives in a hunter-gatherer society, so he doesn't get to do that; he just gets to wake up and get shit on every day. This is why, when the NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC article notes that the eminent Jared Diamond has called agriculture the greatest mistake in the history of humanity, my immediate and visceral response is, "FUCK JARED DIAMOND IN HIS MOTHERFUCKING EAR.")

Anyway. That all aside, it inspires me to ask: what fannish worlds have *you* wished like hell you could live in?

My guess is that for most fans of a certain age, STAR TREK is the unquestioned champion in the "I'm-closing-my-eyes-now-God-so-oh-please-let-me-wake-up-there" sweepstakes. Because it *was,* explicitly, so utopian. When I was a kid, I wished I could live in the STAR WARS universe; looking at it from the outside as a grown-up, I wouldn't live there if you paid me. The Vorkosiverse is like that for me, too. Love to read about it. Don't wanna live there.

For my part, I occasionally get a little bummed when I think about the fact that I will never ever get to have a TARDIS. I think part of this is because it solves all of my issues with moving. You can fit *all of your stuff in it.* You *never have to move again.* You can park it *anywhere, anytime.* It has *indoor plumbing.* You never have to pay rent or property taxes. If you go by the classic series, it has a food concentrate dispenser, so you don't even need to go to the store if you run out of stuff and get hungry. Seriously, if the TARDIS has an internet connection, which the modern version evidently does, I am fucking sold. I will go to the future and bring back some cures for friends with serious medical issues, and then I'll rescue H. Beam Piper, Robert E. Howard, Stan Rogers, and the Elephant Man, and then I'll go on jaunts of sightseeing that include lengthy intervals of me being parked on a beach on the Devonian because I never have to bother or be bothered by anybody ever again. That is my idea of heaven, right there.
hradzka: (cameron's head)
A question for my all-knowing, all-porning flist: what is the origin of the kink meme?

The gimmick, for those who are unfamiliar: somebody makes a post declaring a kink meme, and people post in comments (frequently anonymously, occasionally not) with requests in the form of fic prompts. Others than comment on, typically in the form of enthusiastic seconding, or write fic in (frequently anonymously, occasionally not) in reply to these requests as they are made. These requests typically embody some specific kink, hence the meme. From what I gather, the idea's antecedent is probably the anonymous love memes that go about every so often, where people post their username and others then anonymously make nice comments about them. But I don't know where or when people started writing fic in these things. (Fanlore has no entry for the concept of "kink meme," which seems to me to be a pretty gaping hole given that several fannish pages refer to kink memes.) The first one I remember seeing was for the 2009 STAR TREK flick, but being as I am not in fandom for the porn and because there are huge areas of fandom I know absolutely nothing about (see: SGA), I don't know when it started or in what fandom.

The other curious thing about the kink meme, to me, is that the anonymity function is designed to facilitate people asking for/writing exactly the kinky perverted fanfic they're asking for with no inhibitions from some attendant sense of shame. This strikes me as odd, because as several fandoms -- most especially SUPERNATURAL -- have made it abundantly clear at this point, fandom *has* no sense of shame.

("Damn, they're hot! What? They're brothers? OKAY INCEST IS AWESOME NOW YAYE.")
hradzka: (pointy teeth)
Now that Archive of Our Own allows you to sort for hit count, we can take a look at what the popular fics are this year. I'm writing this on the morning of New Year's Day, so these numbers will change a little, but the results are interesting. Here's the top 10: )
hradzka: Cassidy, from Garth Ennis's PREACHER. (Default)
From Jess Nevins, who gave an interesting presentation on similar stuff more recently (lecture on physical culture and its expression in literature; MP3, well worth the time -- I'm a huge Doc Savage fan, but had no idea that Eugen Sandow, the father of bodybuilding, had inspired dime novels), an old but fascinating glimpse at crossovers and at RPF for pay, back in the day.

Crossovers involving the use of fictionalized versions of real people became common in the last decade of the 19th century and the first decade of the 20th century. Celebrities have often been used by authors in their stories, but before the growth of the news media in the 19th century these men and women were the products of folklore rather than reality. Dick Turpin appeared in William Ainsworth's Gothic novel Rookwood (1834) and in penny dreadfuls, but the Turpin used in those works was a heavily romanticized version which bore little relation to the real Dick Turpin. The growth of the newspaper in the 19th century allowed individuals other than heads of state to become internationally known, and allowed them to be used by authors as supporting characters in serial fiction. Thomas Byrnes (1842-1910) was appointed Detective Bureau Chief of the New York City Police Department in 1880, and over the next fifteen years Byrnes turned the N.Y.P.D. into a modern, professional police force, one widely admired for its efficiency. Byrnes became a celebrity during these years and was seen as the personification of modern policing. He was incorporated into at least eight different dime novel detective serials in the 1890s as "Superintendent Byrnes" or "Inspector Byrnes," the "Head of the New York City Police Department" and the man responsible for giving Nick Carter or Broadway Billy or Dave Dotson or Gideon Gault their orders. Theodore Roosevelt, during the years of his presidency, was almost as popular a subject for appearances in the dime novels, as was the internationally renowned strongman Eugen Sandow (1867-1925). A fictionalized version of the Russian terrorist Evno Azef (1869-1918) fought the mystic Sâr Dubnotal in the French pulp Sâr Dubnotal and Sexton Blake in the British story paper Union Jack, both in 1909. A fictionalized version of the Japanese spy Oka-Yuma appeared as the enemy of Nat Pinkerton in the German heldroman (dime novel) Nat Pinkerton, der König der Detectivs in 1910, as the villainous lead in a serial, "Oka-Yuma, Japanese Spy" in a Russian newspaper in 1911-1912, and as the enemy of Lukas Hull in the German heldroman Lukas Hull, Detektiv Abenteuer in 1921.
hradzka: (solace)
  • I was curious as to what kind of Disney fanfic was out there. Not much, and most of what there is is terrible; there's a reason it's a Yuletide-eligible fandom. I did find a truly horrifying Belle/Beast pr0n ficlet that's quite effective.


  • Telekinesis by air jet! I want one.

  • I think my favorite writing on the subject of depression is by F. Scott Fitzgerald, in the form of his three-part essay, "The Crack-Up." Michel Mok provides a view of Fitzgerald from the outside during this period in his excellent interview, "The Other Side of Paradise, Scott Fitzgerald, 40, Engulfed in Despair." I think Fitzgerald's characterization of himself in tentative recovery as, variously, a broken plate -- a metaphor that's been used by others, but none as well -- and a surly dog has a remarkable truth to it, and a kind of grace in its woundedness that escapes most people who try to write about depression or indeed any profoundly affecting emotion. Its conclusion (barring the, to modern readers, jarring little bit of racism) is one of the most remarkable passages I've ever read, particularly the last two sentences:

    I do not any longer like the postman, nor the grocer, nor the editor, nor the cousin’s husband, and he in turn will come to dislike me, so that life will never be very pleasant again, and the sign Cave Canem is hung permanently just above my door. I will try to be a correct animal though, and if you throw me a bone with enough meat on it I may even lick your hand.
hradzka: Cassidy, from Garth Ennis's PREACHER. (Default)
Taking a break from AOOO uploading. I am so glad that I am not prolific. I pity some of you more than I can ever say. Importer: *awesome* idea.

I will be making feedback as I get closer to done, but for now here are just some quick notes and such:

  • There really needs to be a way to change pseudonym on multiple stories at once, because some people might be silly enough to upload multiple fics at once before they've figured out how to put the right pseud on and then wind up having to fix that on each of 'em individually. I, er, can't *imagine* who might be so silly, he said, glancing around to make sure everyone believed him, but I'm sure there is someone.

  • For whatever reason, the rating and warning fields do not properly display on the first preview. I either have to preview again or just click update to make them show up. Very mysterious.

  • A story imported from an LJ post got truncated mid-sentence by an em-dash.

  • Starfire's name was not capitalized on my establishing of it; now it is lower-case no matter how I try to fix it. Calling tag wrangler!

  • Yuletide stories import weirdly. They have the comment links at bottom, which is cool, but also the stuff at the top, which does not work and has to be weeded out.

  • Am I the only person who will be putting the original release dates or approximations thereof onto all my stories? Just thinking, it'd be cool as hell to be able to graph fandom size by year.
  • AOOO stories having Yuletide tags will make it real tough to close the Yuletide archive in future.


The most interesting part of the whole thing, to me, was finding out what fandoms and characters *had not been tagged yet.* To my knowledge, I was the first person to make the following notable character and pairing tags on AOOO, and I am noting this because it is funny as hell that yours truly would be that person: first Tim/Cass pairing tag (in fact, first pairing tag of Tim Drake with *anyone*), first Cassandra Cain character tag, first KON-EL character tag (I can't freakin' believe that one), first Flash and Wonder Woman character tags, FIRST SEX POLLEN TAG WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE UNIVERSE, first Transformers fic.

Seriously, guys, c'mon, how the hell did I beat out everybody else on "sex pollen?" THIS IS ME WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. And I can't believe that Tim/Kon fics didn't stuff the site to the gills during closed beta.
hradzka: (pointy teeth)
Just got my Archive of Our Own invite! Woo-hoo!

...am I the only person who, on seeing AOOO abbreviated all over the flist, immediately appends a sung "Werewolves of London" to it?

I am calling everybody with an AOOO account "werewolves" until a better term pops up.
hradzka: Cassidy, from Garth Ennis's PREACHER. (Default)
Mike Sterling has an interesting post that touches on on for-pay RPF from the 1970s. He points out that teen magazines included fictional stories about celebrities, mysteries and adventures and romances and -- yes, *exactly,* it was totally RPF. I *have* to poach Sterling's selected quote, a bit from a serialized story in which the protagonist, Cindi goes on adventures with, um, Donny Osmond.

In spite of the total darkness, Donny seemed to know in which direction to swim. Cindi held onto Donny from behind, with one hand under his arm and the other across his bare shoulders. As he propelled them forward through the murky depths, Cindi could feel the movement of Donny's muscles working under his skin, and his soft, thick hair brushing her face. With her left leg alongside his right, Cindi was able to pick up and imitate the rhythm of Donny's kicking, so that the two of them, intertwined and struggling forward, became as one.


...yeah.

It's as amazing to me as it is to you -- maybe more so, because I vividly remember the flamewars when RPF came into being, and to be honest the stuff still squicks me today -- but apparently there was a time when RPF was not only not minded, but was more or less *commissioned,* for *pay,* and *sold for profit,* by celebrity magazines. I honestly wonder if such a thing might not come round again. Admittedly, Mary Sue are probably an easier sell than slash, and this was in the day where you just had "becoming as one while swimming in total darkness" as masturbatory fodder in lieu of actual porn, so some aspects would be a tough sell. But if I were a romance or mystery publisher, particularly one with a corporate relationship with some music arm, I would seriously think about producing a line of cheap stories with celebrity tie-ins. Because you can plonk a big pile of seventies teen mags down and say, "We used to do it!" (Hey, publishers, wanna print money? Commission somebody to write a book about a murder mystery at Fueled by Ramen, with Patrick Stump solving the crime. You want a TWILIGHT knock-off? Produce books about things that TWILIGHT's audience already likes. Or -- dig this: a murder/romance set DURING THE FILMING OF THE TWILIGHT MOVIES, with the stars solving crimes and acting. You want more TWILIGHT books to sell? You got it.)

I think that I had this idea means that I'm going to hell.

an idea

Oct. 27th, 2009 08:10 pm
hradzka: Cassidy, from Garth Ennis's PREACHER. (Default)
Nathan Fillion occasionally does book signings in character as Richard Castle.

Next time he does, somebody should totally ask him if it's true that he's related to the mystery writer J.B. Fletcher. I really wonder what he'd say. ("Um... maybe? She's related to everybody else!" or "Aunt Jess! She's great, isn't she? ...I outsell her. I think she's a little annoyed about that.")

AUGH

Oct. 26th, 2009 02:18 pm
hradzka: (facepalm)
I forgot to nominate ROBOCOP for Yuletide.

And I really, really wanted to. God damn it.

(This would not have been so bad if someone else had nominated it.)

oh dear

Oct. 12th, 2009 10:58 am
hradzka: Cassidy, from Garth Ennis's PREACHER. (Default)
Seen in batfic, a strangely adorable fic seach request:

Searching for fic... feel kind of ashamed asking this, but um... does anyone out there know of any Jason Todd hookerfic?

You know... Bruce picks him up as a streetwise rent boy, that kind of thing?

If it doesn't exist I might have to make it so it does.


...y'know, that kind of fic is not and has never been my thing, but I seem to vaguely recall there may have been FIVE OR SIX MILLION STORIES ABOUT THAT. I love this query so much for some reason; I think it's the degree of sheer innocence in the hesitancy and shame, like a blushing guy asking Oscar Wilde if holding hands with other chaps is really all that sinful. Some of y'all go help a fangirl out, huh?
hradzka: (pointy teeth)
A pretty remarkable quote from Harry Knowles, on TWILIGHT fans at Comicon:

After that - the audience went from a female majority to a male majority with the impending awesome that was AVATAR. I do have to say - the snobbery that I've read from some of my fellow online Bloggers - kinda annoyed me, specifically when Devin from CHUD twittered that it was time for REAL GEEKS to get in. I'm sorry. But any film... any audience... that camps out overnight, travels from around the world, to see a glimpse of their Vampire movie stars and a brief glimpse at too short footage. They're REAL GEEKS in my book. They make their own T-shirts, costumes, outfits. They hang on every word, rumor and report. They're real geeks, just excited by the romance of young love and the fantasy of immortality. And that's cool. To see so many truly hot young women at Comic Con... that isn't a shame, that's a goddamn relief! Because at Comic Con - they'll become not real geeks, but BIGGER geeks - and just spending these first several panels with them - well, it was nice. There was a passion and a thrill and energy to the room that was missing when they had gone.


Yeah, he did throw the "truly hot young women" in there, but overall that's a pretty nice sentiment. I figured [profile] sharpest_rose would like that.

News flash: I don't like TWILIGHT. As a matter of fact, I think it's pretty poisonous. I hate TWILIGHT for the same reasons I hated Spike/Buffy, and for the same reasons I dislike several varieties of fanfic: it ignores considerations of humanity, characterization, honest storytelling, and above all the implications of everything it sets in motion because hey, man, it's hot. It tells a susceptible audience that romance is the be-all and end-all, it legitimizes behavor that's creepy and repulsive, and it's generally pretty yecchy.

But y'know what? Young people like crap. Not to say they don't like good stuff, but they love crap too. When I was a kid, I honestly believed THE BEASTMASTER and KRULL to be terrific movies. So I don't much worry if I think what they're into is crap; they've got strong constitutions that can recover from poison, and the nice thing about SDCC is that they'll get to see some other stuff while they're there. Maybe that'll get 'em discovering other facets of fandom, other things to be fannish about.

Even if most of them didn't stay to see James Cameron talk about AVATAR.

(girls are you nuts it's JAMES ALIENS TERMINATOR THE ABYSS CAMERON are you out of your teenaged minds? -- HE MADE TITANIC, TOO, ALL RIGHT?!!?)

ETA: Video footage of TWILIGHT fans in their native habitat (alas, not Comicon), as they react to the NEW MOON trailer )
hradzka: (pepper is the sidekick)
I just realized something that amused me: Gaila, the Orion gal who's Uhura's Starfleet Academy roommate, has been surprisingly prominent in STXI fanfic, considering that she's got a very small part in the film. I was a little surprised by this, because my default expectation is that modern fanfic-producing fandom will ignore pretty much everything that the small subset it defines as hot.* But then I realized that I shouldn't be surprised, because it was a dynamic I'd seen before.

Gaila's importance has been elevated in fanfic for a few reasons, but one big one is that she's extraordinarily useful. Arguably the biggest ship in STXI is Uhura/Spock, and since fandom loves the first times and beginning relationships, there's going to be a lot of Uhura getting to know Spock. Spock, however, is a very closed person. Uhura is not going to jump right into heart-to-heart stuff right away. She will be frustrated. So she will need someone to talk to. That's Gaila.

Hmmm. Very minor character in film elevated to major supporting role in fanfic, in large part because she offers a way to get at the feelings of major film character who is romantically interested in emotionally distant male lead. Why does that seem --

Yup. It's X-MEN movieverse all over again. Gaila is Jubilee.

I mean, the fic is better, but Gaila's promotion partially involves a similar dynamic, and that amuses me.

(* Amusing footnote: I was rummaging in my archives recently and happened across a ten-year-old Usenet post in which I argued very cogently that the ratio of porn to gen in a fandom's fic was a barometer of the quality of the original material: i.e., if the original is good, fans try to emulate it; if it is crappy, their attention wanders and they do stuff that's radically different, like, oh, say, porn. I don't know if I was as right then as I thought I was -- it would sound bizarre to say something like that today, but younger fen should realize that ten years ago the level of sexually-oriented fanfic was way, way, WAY below the amount now -- but even if I was dead-on in 1999, that sure isn't true anymore, because large numbers of folks are very specifically here for the porn. Case in point: the folks writing STXI are turning out lots and lots of fic, lots of really good gen fic, even -- and what was the first big explosion of fannish creativity in that fandom? The kink meme. People came out of the theater and went straight home to write the porn! (That a gen meme followed, I think, says very good things about that fandom. It is not my fandom, and I don't think it is likely to become so, but it looks like it's going to be a positive influence on a hell of a lot of up-and-coming fan writers. I'd much rather neofens cut their teeth in a fandom where there's a healthy mixture of story types and character interactions than in, say, McShep.)
hradzka: (rex the wonder dog on skis)
Fanfic!New!Kirk is Ivan Vorkosigan Vorpatril.

Discuss.
hradzka: (catwoman and holly)
[personal profile] musesfool has an interesting post, in part about comfort zones that fan writers have. She says:

I write the stories I write because they are the stories I want to read. Fandom has a huge appetite for stories that are nearly identical - first times, aliens made them do it, h/c, etc. - and I think that's as much on the writing end as on the reading end. I do know that my stories tend to be repetitive - I like to examine the same themes from minutely different angles, and I'll keep doing so until something else interests me. I wouldn't recommend reading them all in a row.


Food for thought. I know fandom loves the same stories over and over and over again (when I was active in DCU writing, "Kon helps Tim relax" stories arguably made up about half the fandom), but I'm not sure if I could say that about myself or not. It's been pointed out to me that I've written about parents and children a number of times, but I don't know if there's any real thematic component to that. That said, Robert Heinlein said (in "On the Writing of Speculative Fiction," OF WORLDS BEYOND, Fantasy Press, 1947) that there are only three stories: boy-meets-girl, The Little Tailor (i.e., a character's rise or fall, or both; think SCARFACE and MILK for a couple of disparate examples in film) and the-man-who-learned-better. The specifics vary from story to story and from fandom to fandom, but in general I would say that the story I write over and over and over is "the-man-who-learned-better." My stories tend to be about characters learning things: about themselves, about the world, about what to do or be, with the result that they wind up in a different place then they started out in.

I don't repeat specifics much; at least, I try not to. I think that my tendency to not write romantic pairings probably helps, but I think I'd feel kind of awkward doing boy-meets-girl or boy-meets-boy if I kept writing first times about the same pairing. It brings to mind Tom Lehrer's patter about folk songs: "finding singing fifty verses of 'On Top of Old Smokey' twice as enjoyable as singing twenty-five," and whatnot. :)

I dunno. How would you guys peg me? And how would you peg yourselves? Make it a meme if you want; I think this is a neat question, and I'd like to see more people answer it.
hradzka: Cassidy, from Garth Ennis's PREACHER. (Default)
Really nice CHUD article on horror movie fans making the best movie fans. It's a pretty decent rationale: they're cosmopolitan (martial arts fans are the only genre types who watch more foreign films), they watch lots of old stuff, they are willing to mine through tons of crap for the gold, and they're a pretty diverse bunch. Being a horror fan early on promotes habits that are likely to create wide-ranging cinephiles.
hradzka: (han)
[personal profile] liviapenn is fangirling MIAMI VICE of late, which made me think about other properties that would have had big-ass fandoms if, you know, modern online media fandom had been around then.

You know what *totally* missed out on having a huge fandom? LETHAL WEAPON.

Here is how little fic there is: the Pit of Voles has featured a grand total of sixteen LETHAL WEAPON fics in the last *eight years.* And that's remarkable, because it is basically fancandy. Guys love it for the buddy stuff and the action, but there is angst galore in Riggs and there are tons of scenes with the guys expressing their love for one another. Like the bit in LETHAL WEAPON 2 where drug-running South African diplomats put a bomb on Murtaugh's toilet, and he sits there all night so his legs go numb and he won't be able to jump into the bathtub and pull the protective stuff down over him, so Riggs has to stay and help him, and all the bomb squad guys go out and it's just them and they have a bonding session and then Riggs pulls him into the bathtub and they basically hug as the toilet explodes, and honestly, doesn't that sound like fanfic already? And then there's the bit in LETHAL WEAPON 3 where Murtaugh is drunk and Riggs is begging him not to retire because what will Riggs do if Roger Murtaugh isn't there any more, because Riggs is in Murtaugh's *life,* he's so incompetent at housekeeping that Murtaugh's wife Trish has basically adopted him and does his laundry and finds stuff when he loses it, and Riggs is basically in tears.

(There would be Murtaugh/Riggs slash out the wazoo, but I would really love to see Trish genfic. There's a great Trish/Riggs scene in LETHAL WEAPON 2, where she's found a gold pen he lost in the laundry, and the pen is significant to him because it's closely tied to the night his wife was killed in a car crash.)

In case you haven't noticed, I freakin' love the LETHAL WEAPON movies.

It'd be a great Yuletide fandom, actually. And -- *checks yuletide archive* -- it has never been one! Hmm. I'm going to put the Yuletide tag on this, so when the time rolls around I can check and see what fandoms I thought might be good.

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