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I don't post often on politics. In part, this is because fandom is my refuge; in part, this is because I differ from my friends on a wide variety of issues, and I'd rather talk about things that we have in common, or things many of y'all may not know about -- like, politics surrounding gun issues, because I know a lot of the people on my flist don't know any other gun owners, so I provide a point of view you guys may not be familiar with.

On December 30, there was an anti-Israeli demonstration in Fort Lauderdale. No big deal, right? One sees these things. (I remember some street theater on campus a while back when the local pro-Palestinian Arab group set up a mock Israeli checkpoint for students to go through, to demonstrate their view of those things; unfortunately, the campus police wouldn't allow *me* to go through it -- hey, man, it was a FAKE suicide bomber vest!) But this video had a moment that made my vision blur into a field of red. If you are so inclined, skip ahead to 3:25. You will see an attractive young woman. She is yelling at the Jewish counter-protestors.

This is what she is yelling:

"GO BACK TO THE OVENS!"

I try to keep a very temperate tone in politics. Part of my rationale is that I think it's nyekulturny to wish the opposition to be drowned in fire. I had my flamewar days; I got tired of them. I also am mindful that gun owners are stereotyped as violent, crazed individuals, and that intemperate rhetoric from me only aides political opponents.

But let me just say this, as a calm, temperate statement of fact: I am perfectly willing to respect even raucous protests championing views I disagree with, but if I happen to be in the vicinity of one and there's somebody yelling that, then that person is losing teeth.

And right now, *I want that bitch's name.*

Date: 2009-01-07 01:03 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ilyena_sylph
....I am on your side there.

Date: 2009-01-07 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ficbyzee.livejournal.com
Oh my fucking god. I can't even believe someone would say that.

Date: 2009-01-07 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droolfangrrl.livejournal.com
It might not help, but...

http://asheville.indymedia.org/article/107Clowns

"Saturday May 26th the VNN Vanguard Nazi/KKK group attempted to host a hate rally to try to take advantage of the brutal murder of a white couple for media and recruitment purposes.

Unfortunately for them the 100th ARA (Anti Racist Action) clown block came and handed them their asses by making them appear like the asses they were."

Date: 2009-01-07 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marag.livejournal.com
I've read that article before, but it never fails to make me happy :) I love the clowns!

Date: 2009-01-07 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marag.livejournal.com
Oh, that's just lovely. Really. I do believe that smacking that bitch would be justifiable. ::wants to smack her too::

There's plenty to disagree and argue about when it comes to the situation in the Middle East, but rhetoric like that (from either side) is just not on.

Date: 2009-01-07 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] basingstoke.livejournal.com
DUDE WHAT THE FUCK

Date: 2009-01-07 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] v5-vendetta.livejournal.com
There are lines, damn it, of conduct and rhetoric that we do not cross in a civilized society so that we may maintain relatively peaceful tones of discussion and debate. When those lines are casually and impetuously crossed . . . yeah. Somebody would be getting very dead right now if I had their name and location and the capacity to do something about it. Not necessarily meaning that I'd do it, but that I'd give up that name and location to people sufficiently foul-tempered and violently disposed to do what I'd rather keep my hands personally clean of.

Date: 2009-01-07 03:01 am (UTC)
beatrice_otter: Me in red--face not shown (Default)
From: [personal profile] beatrice_otter
but if I happen to be in the vicinity of one and there's somebody yelling that, then that person is losing teeth.

As a pastor-in-training, can I just say: Amen.

Yes, God is love, and God is forgiveness, and the grace of God is unlimited. But there's also a place for a dash of hellfire and brimstone, now and again.

Date: 2009-01-07 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cyano.livejournal.com
I have no words for how angry that makes me.

But I do want her name too.

So I can truly express my anger.

Since I won't NEED WORDS to do it.

Fucking troglodytes.

Date: 2009-01-07 03:06 am (UTC)
beatrice_otter: Me in red--face not shown (Default)
From: [personal profile] beatrice_otter
Oops. Forgot. Got to get my pastor icon on.

Date: 2009-01-07 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 3fgburner.livejournal.com
Second the motion. I don't think I'd smack her. Just grab her by the stacking swivel and get in her face, for a VERY intense talk.

Date: 2009-01-07 04:39 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] cereta.livejournal.com
I say this as someone whose professional life is devoted to reasoned, rationale disagreement: some things are beyond the pale, and deserve nothing more than a good, hard right hook.

Date: 2009-01-07 08:09 am (UTC)
jamethiel: A common kingfisher sits on a branch with a background of green foliage. (Default)
From: [personal profile] jamethiel
....

How can ANYONE, EVER think that this shit is okay?

Date: 2009-01-07 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmar-wingnut.livejournal.com
Being that idiotic and hateful is its own punishment. Not that I wouldn't like to smack the bitch myself.

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